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Dear Jamie,
I’m in a strange reverse friend zone situation. I mean, I’m friend zoned according to her but apparently I put myself there. …Wat?
In reality, she merely assumed something I’d said early on meant I was entirely opposed to being anything more than friends. Thus, she’s approached our situation in a purely platonic way from the start. We “met” on the Internet and met for real about a month later, and it was one of our early digital correspondences that stuck me in the friend zone. I, of course, wasn’t aware of this, so while trying to judge how into me she was when we hung out, I was registering about a zero on the interestedness meter. Turns out it’s because she had me in the friend zone… that I had unknowingly put myself in.
I’d like to get out of the zone but I’m not entirely sure what to do. My motives aren’t exactly the purest — I’m not flat-out opposed to a relationship but I’m not exactly looking for one either. I don’t feel like I have a lot of offer relationship-wise (I’m a boring nerd who spends too much time on the computer) but I have a strong desire for female companionship and the emotion that goes with it (ie I love foreplay and cuddling and all that). Beyond the companionship I don’t necessarily desire whatever it is that makes something an official relationship. I think at this point all I want is a friend-with-benefits type of thing — a so-called “casual relationship.” It’s something I’ve been offered briefly twice before in the past, but I feel like that’s kind of an asshole thing for me to want. I mean, it’s fine and dandy when it’s the girl’s idea but asking for that as a guy seems like douche move.
Especially in this situation because it’s like… I friend zoned myself (apparently) and then I’d be trying to get out… only not to go after a relationship like she’d probably expect. She’s a pretty cool girl but I’m not *that* into her, you know? I still want to hang out with her because we have common interests but I’d rather our hang-out time end with her spending the night rather than me dropping her off at her place. In other words, I wouldn’t mind being her boy toy, but I guess that’s too pipe dream-esque to actually happen. Too much simultaneous caking having and eating, I reckon.
Do you think it’s worth the trouble? Should I even bother trying to correct her mistaken assumption that friend zoned me from the start? Would being honest about how I want to have some fun with her but not necessarily anything more than that be useful or would it just make me out to be an asshole? Do you think there’s a chance she’d be cool with a casual relationship? Is it common for girls to want or be okay with that sort of thing? Or do I simply I let her go on thinking I was never interested from the start and find someone else?
Signed,
RFZ
Dear RFZ,
I don’t know how to break it to you: some girls use the Friend Zone excuse as a euphemism for “I’m not interested in you.” Let’s take a brief glimpse at this flow chart, shall we? You can click on the image for more in-depth information.
Where do you see yourself falling? You say that upon meeting her, you were “registering about a zero on the interstedness meter.” Are you sure that this was because you were Friend Zoned or is it really because she just really wasn’t interested in you?
After your presumed positioning in the Friend Zone, have you told her that you find her attractive? If you have, and if she claimed that you guys are just friends, IT REALLY MEANS YOU GUYS ARE JUST FRIENDS. Most people almost always instantaneously know whether or not they will be intimate with someone else – both physically and/or emotionally. Perhaps you were categorized under “no.” If you haven’t already told her how you feel, perhaps you should start off with that and see whether or not she lets you escape the zone.
To answer your long string of questions:
Do you think it’s worth the trouble? Not at all.
Should I even bother trying to correct her mistaken assumption that friend zoned me from the start? Trust me, it’ll be in vain.
Would being honest about how I want to have some fun with her but not necessarily anything more than that be useful or would it just make me out to be an asshole? She’ll think you’re a douche, man.
Do you think there’s a chance she’d be cool with a casual relationship? It really depends on the girl. I don’t know her, so I can’t say anything about that. What type of girl is she? If something about her is blatantly conservative, she probably won’t be interested.
Is it common for girls to want or be okay with that sort of thing? Again, it really depends on the girl. One woman’s opinions and beliefs does not speak on the behalf of every woman’s opinions and beliefs.
Or do I simply I let her go on thinking I was never interested from the start and find someone else? This is exactly what you should be doing.
To summarize things, don’t chase girls who obviously don’t want to be chased. You’re wasting both your time and hers. If she makes it seem as though she’s playing hard to get (this should be COMPLETELY, PAINFULLY BLATANT), then go on and entertain her fancies.
Good luck, Geek.
Jamie
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“She’s a pretty cool girl but I’m not *that* into her, you know?”
Then you just answered your own question.
Speaking as another woman in a tech field, Jamie is right on about this one.
Why is it always about what you want from the girl, and nothing about what you have to offer her? Y’all should think about that.
He did think about that.
“I don’t feel like I have a lot of offer relationship-wise (I’m a boring nerd who spends too much time on the computer) but I have a strong desire for female companionship and the emotion that goes with it (ie I love foreplay and cuddling and all that).”
Sounds like a conflict of interest. But then, I dunno why people have to be all serious mode all the time. Why must people go into things hoping for something long term? Is it so wrong to approach it casually as in “whatever happens happens” because neither necessarily expects it to last?
Of course, when a girl offers friends with benefits it’s totally cool but when a guy wants it he’s an asshole. Double standards for the win.
Actually, that’s a pretty cool article!