Binary System Podcast – Watch Party #8 – North by Northwest

It’s time yet again to Social Distance the heck out of this epidemic and watch a movie together while still staying in three different states: North Carolina, Florida, and California. Next up for the Tri-State Watch Party, we’re going with Alfred Hitchcock’s North by Northwest.

The Netflix Watch Party app ended up being a little complicated, so we just set a time to hit “play” and then chatted through instant messenger. Click the jump to read some highlights from the conversation.

The Players: Elizabeth, Hannah, Kathryn, Nathan, and the parents (Parents represented here by Marian, because Dad would chisel a message in a stone tablet before typing anything on a phone.)

 

Marian
testing…

Kathryn
Helloooo!

Elizabeth
Greetings!

Running behind, renting on prime…

Marian
I ( Hannah) am on Mom’s computer trying to get it set up for Dad

Kathryn
No hurries.

Kathryn
Dad’s going to join the conversation?

Elizabeth
Rented!

Marian
Well, he’s going to be able to see the conversation

Hopefully

Kathryn
137 minutes, this movie definitely doesn’t feel that long.

We’re set over here too.

Hannah
Okay, just waiting on Mom

… who has decided to clean the kitchen? Perfect

Elizabeth
hahaha

Kathryn
MOM.

Hannah
Okay, we’re ready

Elizabeth
Hitting play!

Kathryn
Playing!

Wheee, no trailer!

Elizabeth
I swear, I actually know nothing about this movie other than the crop duster

Nathan
Keep any eye out for Hitchcock’s cameo. It’s pretty early in the film.

Hannah
Pretty modern feel for 59

Kathryn
Quite.

This movie has aged extremely well

Hannah
Did Hitchcock always use the same composer?

Elizabeth
There he is!

Nathan
And there it was!

Kathryn
I think he started doing those sooner and sooner to keep from being a distraction.

Nathan
Cary Grant: the very definition of suave.

Hannah
This feels like The Apartment. And all of these things must’ve influenced Brazil

Kathryn
Definitely the same rapid-fire conversation as The Apartment

Hannah
And claustrophobic offices

Kathryn
I’d like to say I’d start shouting, but that’s easy to say when you don’t have a gun pointed at you.

Hannah
It’s a helluva gambit to threaten to shoot someone in a crowded restaurant. Might call their bluff

Elizabeth
I’ve heard fall to the floor and make them pull your dead weight, but I don’t know if I’d be able to pull it off

Nathan
I’d forgotten Marin Landau was in this.

Kathryn
The very soul of charming menace.

Hannah
Isn’t that James Mason?

Nathan
Yep!

Marian
No. It is James Mason

Nathan
Martin Landau was the young guy outside the window holding croquet mallet.

Marian
And now we have Martin Landau

Elizabeth
Who’s on first?

Marian
James mason

Hannah
Mom…

Elizabeth
Martin Landau!

Hannah
Stop it, both of you

Kathryn
Ahahaha

Elizabeth

Hannah
Was James Mason ever parodied on Loony Toons?

Nathan

Hannah
Heh

Nathan
Might have been!

Hannah
Young Landau looks like Chelsey’s boyfriend

Kathryn
Wouldn’t that much liquor all at once KILL you?

Hannah
Naaaaaaaaaah

Marian
Depends

Hannah
Heh I didn’t realize this is where Death Becomes Her got this car plot

Elizabeth
I’ve had literal nightmares about this..

Kathryn
SO HAVE I.

“No they didn’t give me a chaser.”

Nathan

Elizabeth
“Doctor I am GASSED.”

Kathryn
The actress playing his mother is the same age as him, has to be

Nathan
Only 8 years older, in real life.

Hannah
That’s some Forrest Gump shit

Nathan
“What a performance!”

Kathryn
God, that panicky feeling where you KNOW you sound crazy and you can’t stop.

Hannah
Haha how often does that happen to you, Kathryn?

Kathryn
In my mind, all the time.

Hannah
Heh

Elizabeth
Putting fingerprints on all the things

And establishing a whole bunch of witnesses who know he’s Kaplan..

Kathryn
The call is coming from inside the hotel!

Now THOSE are some fancy elevators.

Nathan
Seriously!

Elizabeth
Speaking of nightmares…

Hannah
Blond baddie looks like Nik Wallenda

Kathryn
Elevator of DOOM

Elizabeth
Ooo, I forgot about the elevator nightmares. That’d be the only thing to make them worse: a pack of people laughing at you.

Beautiful building, matte painting?

Kathryn
Pretty sure.

Elizabeth
hee, dumbass

Nathan
DON’T GRAB THE MURDER WEAPON!,

Hannah
Eep

Hahaha

Kathryn
Everybody following the exposition here?

Elizabeth
I .think. so

Just that Kaplan doesn’t exist?

Hannah
Kaplan doesn’t exist

Kathryn
Got it in one!

Hannah
Getting more now

Elizabeth
And they’re hanging him out to dry

Hannah
“Nobody’s denying that” is a good comeback for professor exposition

Elizabeth
Grand Central Station?

Nathan
Yep!

Hannah
Yerp

Nathan
Did we ever take you there?

Elizabeth
Yep!

Kathryn
“Something wrong with your eyes?” “Yes they’re sensitive to questions.”

Hannah
On the Waterfront would be a good watch too

(EMS)

Nathan
Excellent film!

Been a long time since I lasted saw it.

Marian
On the waterfront is a great film

Elizabeth
Another one I’ve never seen

Nathan
I wish trains were still this nice.

Amtrak is decidedly low frills.

Hannah
I’ll say it: what’s in a Gibson?

Kathryn
Just looking that up now

Gin and vermouth

Marian
Martini with onion Garnish

Elizabeth
I like this lady, she’s got moxie.

Hannah
George Clooney definitely has this type down

Elizabeth
Agreed

Nathan
Trying to imagine Cary Grant singing Man of Constant Sorrow now.

Kathryn
This kind of frank sexuality in a female character is really refreshing

Hannah
Haha “OOPS”

Elizabeth
“It’s going to be a long night, and I don’t particularly like the book I’ve started” is a GREAT pickup line.

Hannah
Ol Monkey Knuckles

Elizabeth
Hee

Kathryn
Still the gentleman who pays for dinner as he runs from the cops.

Hannah
Exactly

Elizabeth
.wink wink.

Hannah
Hayes Code HAYS CODE

Elizabeth
Had to look that one up 

Kathryn
Did that actually get repealed, or did everyone just start ignoring it?

Hannah
I .think. there was an official reversal of the code, but surprisingly late, like 1978 or something

Elizabeth
I feel like one of the Naked Gun parodies made fun of this, having sex in a very small cabin

Weeeell I had a feeling but still, crap.

Kathryn
Femme fatale

Elizabeth
Heh, he even paid the guy who’s clothes he stole

Is it that it’s a ladies razor?

Kathryn
Yeah, although I can’t imagine shaving your legs with that teeny razor would be any easier than shaving your face.

Hannah
I was going to say earlier that this also reminds me of 12 Monkeys, but then I remembered there’s a double feature in that film with Vertigo and The Birds, so OF COURSE it’s Hitchcock-inspired

Elizabeth
OH, totally forgot that.

Nathan
Classic scene coming up!

Hannah
Oh dear…

Nathan
After the shower scene in Psycho, this is probably Hitchcock’s most famous.

Elizabeth
THAT road reminds me a little of Se7en

Nathan

Hannah
Did Hitchcock coin the term “McGuffin”? Because this is all a good one

Nathan
He might have.

Elizabeth
Kaplan being the McGuffin?

Kathryn
The person driving the plot

Hannah
Pretty much. That this guy raised his hand at the wrong time in a restaurant and here we are

Kathryn
Just imagine being out here in the middle of nowhere with no cell phone and no way to find out if the bus is delayed. Or broke down. Or you just missed it.

The quiet menace in that plane going along the horizon…

Elizabeth
Even knowing it was coming I’ve still got goosebumps

Hannah
I guess just hiding behind the road sign wouldn’t be safe

Elizabeth
YIPE

Kathryn
‘SPLOSIONS!

Hannah
Hahaha

There was no music in all of that

Elizabeth
Amazing

Nathan
Fantastic!

Kathryn
Definitely an iconic scene for a reason.

Elizabeth
O hai

Ah in the days when they’d just hand your room number to strangers

Hannah
TBH if you know their name and floor they might still do that?

Elizabeth
Hm, good point

Hannah
(Speaking from a herd of idiot hockey players)

Can we pause at 10?

Nathan
Sure.

Hannah
All work and no play is apparently the theme of our June movies…

Nathan

Kathryn
That would be hilarious if we could keep that theme going 

Elizabeth
Funny how he went from sexy to creepy so quick

I mean I know she’s no good but eesh

Kathryn
In a flash, damn.

Also, I want that dress.

Elizabeth
Same

Nathan
That is a nice dress,

Elizabeth
He’s wising up

Hannah
Okay sorry but pause?

Kathryn
Paused

Good spot for it.

Elizabeth
Paused!

Hannah
They also used that technique in Lebowski

Kathryn
I think I remember trying that pencil trick a long time ago.

You had to pretty much bear down with the pen, almost THROUGH the pad of paper, to make it work.

Hannah
I love how today’s brilliant wackadoo filmmakers have been inspired by noir

… is this noir?

Elizabeth
I guess?

Nathan
We’re at 1:25:39.

Hannah
Perfect, 1:25:37 here

Elizabeth
Cool, I’m at 1:25:56. I’ll back up 

Kathryn
Would it have to be a black-and-white film to count as noir?

Hannah
I think this might be a generation after noir

What with the originals probably being French aaaaand all

Kathryn
Also, shall we hit play at 10:10?

Hannah
Sure

(They did a mini ep of Wooden Overcoats recently that was unsurprisingly sweet, involving Antigone’s French film nights)

Elizabeth
Ooo, I must listen?

Hannah
Yes, yes you must

Currently on The Wallace Household
ME: Your tea smells like a Yankee Candle shop
MOM: NO IT DOESN’T

Kathryn

Nathan

Elizabeth
hahaa

Kathryn
Two minutes, places!

Hannah
We here

Elizabeth
ready when yall are

Kathryn
Play

Hannah

Elizabeth
Playing

Speaking of creepy

Kathryn
The auctioneer has done a LOT of voicework I think.

Elizabeth
I feel like he’s got a 1950s voice

Nathan
He was in a few Twilight Zone episodes, too.

Elizabeth
Ooo, slow removal of the hand

“She puts her heart into her work. In fact her whole body.”

Buuuuurn

Hannah
NIK, NO

Sorry, woulda been throwing elbows if I were that lady

Elizabeth
heh

.rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb.

Hannah
ohsusanaohsusana

Nathan
Peas and carrots, peas and carrots.

Hannah
IIIII’ll have a lager she’ll have a beer

Elizabeth
“Stick this in your alphabet soup” is going into my vocabulary.

Interesting choice to have them still argue when you can’t hear them

Hannah
Anti exposition

Kathryn
And because we don’t need the Kaplan exposition twice.

Elizabeth
Ahhhhhh….

Hannah
TEDDY ROOSEVELT IS LITERALLY THE ONLY ONE WHO ISN’T LOOKING AT YOU

Elizabeth
hahahaha

Kathryn
Hee!

I was JUST thinking that.

Elizabeth
If there was anything else in South Dakota I wanted to see I’d suggest Rushmore for the next National Park trip.

Hannah
I’ll bet they have the usual trimmings around there

Elizabeth
Yipe!

Hah, nice.

Kathryn
Perfectly composed shot there.

Hannah
Lordy mcSoftFocus

Elizabeth
LOT of vaseline on that lens

Nathan
Not as much as they put on Ingrid Bergman in Casablanca, though.

Elizabeth
True dat

Hannah
Did Cary Grant manage a longstanding romantic relationship in private, do we know?

Nathan
He married Dyan Cannon late in life.

She was quite a bit younger than him, too.

Hannah
I.. thought he was gay?

Nathan
I don’t think so.

Kathryn
I think you may be thinking of Rock Hudson.

Hannah
Huh.

Elizabeth
POW

Nathan
He was married five times, so I’d say, no, not gay.

Elizabeth
Not that that wouldn’t be a hell of a red herring if he was

Hannah
I mean, it’s Hollywood…

It’s definitely a prominent rumor, I didn’t make it up

Elizabeth
Huh, so it is. Him and Randolph Scott.

Nathan
He did take LSD. That’s a fact.

Elizabeth
Heh

Kathryn
Love that throwaway scene there

Elizabeth
Dude was carrying a lot of folding money

Hannah
Jesus any random mugger could’ve made out like a bandit

Nathan
Funny, you type Randolph Scott into the search field in the GIFs browser and you get lots of pictures of Cary Grant. 

Elizabeth
Hmmm

Kathryn
Five marriages would be taking the whole “in the closet” thing a little far.

Hannah
Not in old Hollywood, I don’t think

Kathryn
True.

Hannah
At least bi tendencies

Elizabeth
I read somewhere that studios used to “take care of” their stars a lot more in the old days.

Hannah
Yeeeeep

PALM SWEATS

Elizabeth
RIGHT

Hannah
I am so sure I know James Mason from Bugs Bunny

Nathan
I would love to have a house like that.

Hannah
Friend, some of yer folding coin has come un-stowed

Elizabeth
Ooooo, I thought this scene was going in a different direction

Hannah
“Great height” with the crane shot. Nice.

Kathryn
Beautifully done.

Nathan
Shades of Rear Window here.

Kathryn
Champagne with ice cubes? You monsters.

Elizabeth
hahah

Hannah
I used to have a tiny pen like that and it was the best

Elizabeth
So classy. Even on the run he’s got a pen and a handkerchief.

a MONOGRAMMED handkerchief

Hannah
OMINOUS PROP PLANE NOISES

whew

Kathryn
Hitchcock knew how to play out the tension

Elizabeth
Complimentary box of cigarettes on the coffee table, different times.

Kathryn
Evil housekeeper returns

Elizabeth
Nice wrapping up of a loose end there

Ah, I thought it was a security camera and went “surprisingly high tec there..”

Hannah
Everybody Has a Tiny Gun

Kathryn
My favorite line in the whole movie.

Elizabeth
hahahah, same gun!!

Hannah
Watch out for the talking trees

I had no idea the monument factored so heavily in this movie

Nathan
Climb down Mt. Rushmore in heels & loafers? Good luck!

Elizabeth
palms sweating again…

Kathryn
Odd that the crop dusting scene became more iconic than the monument

Nathan
The original title was going to be “The Man on Lincoln’s Nose.”

Hannah
Hahaha

Elizabeth
That would’ve been too on the nose.

…I’ll see myself out…

Hannah
… stop it

Kathryn
Get out

Elizabeth

Oh, it’s the statue. For a second I thought he was carrying her shoes for her.

Kathryn
Understandable

Hannah
NIK, NO

NO, NIK

Elizabeth
hahaha

Hannah
Oh dang, went the way of his grandfather

Shades of Last Crusade here

Elizabeth
Very

Awwwww

Hannah
Waow that was… sudden

Kathryn
Train going into a tunnel. IN YOUR FACE, HAYS CODE.

Elizabeth
Heh. The Train Going Into the Tunnel got past the censors

JINX

Hannah
YEP

Nathan
My favorite Hitchcock film!

Elizabeth
So fun!

Kathryn
Now what movie won the Oscar that year. I need to listen to the Best Pick episode and see what they said about it.

Hannah
Argh, I  was trying to think of that

Kathryn
Hmm, looks like it was Ben Hur.

Remember how Hannah said the Oscars could use a Cultural Juggernaut category?

Hannah
WILLIAM WYLER STRIKES AGAIN

… was that even him? I don’t actually know

Honestly did I say that? Because they tried it and it was stupid

Elizabeth
Did they?

Kathryn
I remember you suggested it when there was talk of Avatar getting a Best Pic nom.

Hannah
They threatened a “best big blockbuster” or something but it never happened

Elizabeth
God forbid we make the Oscar ceremony even longer

Hannah
Oh, well to keep any non-terminator Cameron movies out of the running, sure

Kathryn
I think the uproar was about the idea that people have that the super-successful movies are never going to be the “good” ones.

Hannah
Or at least, why award movies just because they’re already financially successful?

Kathryn
That too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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