It’s the return of the Watch Party! We all sat down to watch Rosemary’s Baby, complete with chocolate mousse (though without the chalky undertaste.) This was actually recorded before Halloween, Elizabeth just didn’t have her flim-flam act together to post it till now.
The Players: Elizabeth, Hannah, Kathryn, and Mom.
Kathryn
I will be typing slower this evening due to a disagreement with my bandsaw.
Elizabeth
Yiiikes
Kathryn
Things were said on both sides, but the bandsaw and I made the grownup decision to move past it and pretend nothing happened.
Elizabeth
One hopes the bandsaw decides to grow from the experience and not use it as an excuse for future bad behavior
Hannah
Ok! We are good to go
Elizabeth
Ready here!
Nathan
Ready!
Elizabeth
Hit play?
Kathryn
Play!
Anyone else read the book this was based on?
Probably one of the most faithful adaptations ever. Moreso than Shawshank Redemption
Elizabeth
Wow
Nathan
Produced by the guy who did House on Haunted Hill.
This theme vaguely sounds like Que Sera Sera.
Kathryn
Husband and wife are just so cute together
Elizabeth
I’d love to have a big indoor herb garden
Kathryn
Me too!
I want a room with stained glass doors
Eep, locked away closet, that would creep me OUT.
Hannah
Dude I have that huge old army heater in my apartment and I am still terrified to look inside
Elizabeth
Another neat apartment
Kathryn
The book was definitely a love letter to New York apartments
Cannibals and mob murder, this is NOT dinner conversation
Elizabeth
Was just gonna say that
Hannah
This is terrible foreplay
Elizabeth
Hee. Interesting editing choice to have the undressing go on that long
Kathryn
Liberated woman, say what she wants.
Hannah
Madam can I advise against the patterned yellow wallpaper?
Elizabeth
Hee, never made that connection before now
Nathan
It was the height of fashion in 1968.
Elizabeth
Comes with a woman hiding in it
Kathryn
Oof, the pregnancy connotations here REALLY tie in with that story.
Hannah
And an unconventional exercise program…
NO THANK YOU
“There’s nothing to see” I BEG TO DIFFER
Kathryn
Yikes yikes yikes. Welcome to the neighborhood
Hannah
Who’s that actor?
Pink suit
“Every three weeks or so” Gahhhhhh
Nathan
According to the trivia, Mia Farrow was married to Frank Sinatra. He wasn’t happy with her doing this film. Ended up serving divorce papers to her on the set.
Elizabeth
Double yiiiikes
Hannah
CLASSY
Bah, she had awful taste in men
Nathan
Seriously!
Apparently, things hadn’t been well between them and that was the last straw.
Kathryn
Such effective dream imagery in this movie
I forgot how brash Mrs. Castavet is.
Nathan
She won an Oscar for that role.
Kathryn
It’s an effective performance
Elizabeth
Funny just by the sound of the slamming door I knew he had bad news
Kathryn
“We get friendly with an old couple we’ll never get rid of them.” (Terrified laugh
Hannah
I get John Cassavetes mixed up with John Cazale
Elizabeth
Religious convo at the dinner table, I’d rather the cannibals.
Hannah
Heh this thing with the gestures might be referenced in a great episode of Frasier
Kathryn
Mrs Castavet shoveling her food
Must have been quite a conversation Roman had with Guy, considering…
Elizabeth
Nice that they set up the fact that she’d notice things like empty picture spots because she noticed where the secretary dresser had been earlier
Ugh pushy neighbors
Kathryn
Hee, that head droop
BRASH BRASH BRASH
Now I do like a social occasion with crafts, but it’s pretty damn pushy to just whip em out.
Nathan
Pushy thy name is Minnie.
Kathryn
Guy doing some real “acting” with feeling SO BAD about his competitor’s…misfortune
lizabeth
Yuuup
Hannah
I dunno, I know the story but I have trouble not believing him…
Kathryn
And suddenly Guy is distancing himself from his wife
He’s so charming
Minnie, GO AWAY
Elizabeth
Mousse we have mousse!
Kathryn
“Chalky undertaste”
Hannah
NOT THE CHALKY UNDERTASTE
Nathan
Chalky Undertaste is my band name.
Kathryn
Ha!
Elizabeth
Heeeeere we go
Kathryn
Heeere we I WAS JUST TYPING THAT
Elizabeth
hee
Hannah
Gaslighting buuuuullshit
Elizabeth
I’d completely forgotten about all the dream imagery in this
Hannah
Such effective use of the clock ticking
NOT A FAN OF NIGHTMARE HALLUCINATIONS
Kathryn
Not kidding, this is WORD FOR WORD from the book, right down to the cathedral turning into the underside of the linen closet.
Hannah
NOT THE ONES ON SAILBOATS
Kathryn
Something about the homey pattern on the mattress makes that so much more believable.
Hannah
NO THANK YOU
Kathryn
God, still effective
Such a jerk, even knowing what he put her through
Elizabeth
Oooooh this is SO yuck
Hannah
EW
EW EW EW
Elizabeth
Had sex while you were passed out you ain’t sore aintcha?
Hannah
Also given Mr. Polanski’s preferences, EW
Kathryn
This movie should be used in classes about gaslighting.
Hannah
Omg stop with the Fur Elise already, that alone makes the lady in the wallpaper mad
Congratulations! It’s a demon!
Kathryn
Aw, she’s so happy
Wonder what the blood test showed
Elizabeth
Hee putting the appointment on the calendar as BLOOD is telling
Hannah
Heh BLOOD
Elizabeth
Jinx!
Nathan
Her midiclorian levels were off the chart!
Hannah
Congratulations! It’s a Skywalker!
Nathan
More like a Vader.
Hannah
Still a Skywalker!
Elizabeth
ooo wanting to tell the neighbors is even MORE yjck
AND brining them back to the place
Hannah
Congratulations! It’s your husband’s future wife!
Kathryn
ACK
Apparently a carefully planned shot to make the whole audience lean to the side to try to see what Minnie is doing.
Hannah
Heh effective
Elizabeth
Yup
Kathryn
Guy trying to cringe away in his sleep
Elizabeth
Heh, when he first said “please don’t read books” I thought it was more like “it’ll give you uppity ideas”
Hannah
His advice is both good and terrible
I love it! Stfo, guy
You and your darn books
Elizabeth
More gaslighting ugh
Kathryn
This bit with the pregnancy pain is more unsettling than the black sabbath
Hannah
Also mom’s back here yelling about taking aspirin
OMG WTF IS YOUR PROBLEM, GUY
Elizabeth
The hair comments you MONSTER
Nathan
That’s about how my grandmother ate her steak.
Kathryn
It’s like he wants to punish her for the pregnancy
Hannah
I didn’t remember how dead on I was gonna be with the steak tonight…
Elizabeth
Right??
Kathryn
Rosemary’s Baby Potatoes, ultra-rare steak, mousse. We’re doing it RIGHT.
Pierced ear? OBVIOUSLY a Satanist
Hannah
“Probably far too much” these men can fuck off
(Except hutch)
Kathryn
HAVE SOME CANCER STICKS
Elizabeth
Smoking right by the pregnant lady, different times.
Nathan
Very.
Elizabeth
“Good ol hutch, spreading sunshine.” Dude you told your wife her haircut was the worst decision she ever made, shut it.
Kathryn
Guy, your wife looks like death, turn down the damn TV
Hannah
… why does it blow my mind that you can unplug a landline and plug it in in another room and not lose the call?
Elizabeth
I was just thinking that
Nathan
I was thinking that’s too!
Elizabeth
I wondered if maybe there’s another extension in the house and that one was still live
Nathan
Probably.
Hannah
“That haircut is the worst decision you ever made.”
Elizabeth
hahahah
Got it’s just claustrophobic watching her go through all that with nobody listening
Hannah
Isn’t Sapirstein the doctor in In the Mouth of Madness?
Kathryn
I think you’re right!
Elizabeth
Holy crap I just looked it up and you’re totally right!
Had to be intentional
Kathryn
Gotta be
You tell him, Rosemary!
Hannah
God she’s trying so hard, that’s what’s terrifying
BACK. OFF. MINNIE.
Elizabeth
UGH she’s awful
Nathan
No, that actor died in 1991. In The Mouth of Madness came out in ‘94.
Hannah
No no just the character name
Elizabeth
Yep, the doctor that does the intake on same neil is Saperstein
Nathan
Oh, gotcha!
Hannah
SAME NEIL is MY metal band
Kathryn
Everyone’s so believably shocked at how she looks
Hannah
That woman should be played today by Sarah Paulson
Elizabeth
THAT’S who she reminded me of
Hee, I love the ladies all “NOPE, out you’re not welcome”
Hannah
Like a record scratch with the music going off there
Kathryn
Yes, close ranks, girls!
“You have been in pain since November?” Right?
Hannah
FUCK OFF, GUY
Kathryn
Gaaaaahhhjj
Elizabeth
“I won’t let you do it” OH REALLY
Kathryn
Not fair to Saperstein??
Hannah
she made eggnog. The baby needs eggnog.
Elizabeth
hahaha
Kathryn
And sherry I think
Elizabeth
Hee, the way he jerked his hand back from her stomach
Kathryn
He can’t even be relieved for her.
Hannah
“Unbeknownst to Rosemary, Guy joined Scientology and now she’s having Tom Cruise’s baby…”
Elizabeth
Hee, that’s the remake
Shoot I was hoping Hutch made it out alive
Nathan
And it’s the reincarnation of L.Ron Hubbard.
Hannah
That was very effective
Kathryn
I feel like modern movies wouldn’t take enough time with this
Oh Guy, stuff your flowers
Elizabeth
They do a really good job of making it perfectly plausible that she’s losing her mind
Hannah
Exactly
Kathryn
Gaslighting gaslighting gaslighting
Elizabeth
“Don’t get excited.” Ohhhh shut up
Hannah
THE LIGHTS ARE DIMMING
FUCK. OFF. GUY.
The friendly acceptance here is so horrifically convincing
Elizabeth
Lord yes
Hannah
I do feel like a contemporary movie would make it more one way or the other throughout, this really straddles the line
Elizabeth
Someone throws you a tiny bit of reassurance and you grab it like a lifeline
Hannah
“Yeeeeaaah good bye” fuck off for good, minnie
Elizabeth
I’ve forgotten a lot of this movie but I distinctly remember her dropping the pendant down the drain
Nathan
“I wasn’t thinking.” Guy on any given moment.
Hannah
SHE’S DOING EVERYTHING SHE CAN
Kathryn
Apparently those are real NY drivers in that scene
Not included in the production, the director told her to walk into traffic
Nathan
Said no one would hit a pregnant lady.
Hannah
MIA. HONEY. TALK TO SHELLEY
Kathryn
She’s such a good investigator
Elizabeth
Ticking clock again
Hannah
A contemporary horror movie about what 1960s and 70s male directors did to women to make horror movies
Elizabeth
That’d almost be too scary to watch
Nathan
Oh, the days everyone kept their phone numbers written down in books and used payphones.
Hannah
The only thing at this point is i start wishing she wouldn’t use her name
Elizabeth
Such great acting of a woman doing bad acting
Hannah
And then back to being terrified
Ack yeah it’s hard to sound sane here
Kathryn
And back to her sounding crazy.
Hannah
God effective misdirection there
Nathan
The guy waiting at the phone booth is the producer, William Castle.
Hannah
Haha that’s awesome!
So the thing is, even if she were just rambling, SHE’S OBVIOUSLY TROUBLED. SHE NEEDS HELP
Elizabeth
I was JUST saying the doctor was awfully patient, but yeah even if she was crazy something is really wrong!
Hannah
I remember someone saying once how terrible it is to dismiss something as “a cry for help” because a cry for help is a thing you’re supposed to respond to
Elizabeth
Right??
Kathryn
Exactly!
Hannah
There were times when I was in the hospital it was so terrifying to think I couldn’t trust anyone, and I just wanted someone to believe me and get me out of there. But even when I got to another room I had trouble believing it was real
NO, LIKE THIS
Elizabeth
Nighmarish
Kathryn
I vividly remember this from the first time I watched this
Elizabeth
Dr Hill can go all the way to hell
Hannah
And then when I’d go to appointments I’d think this kind of thing would happen
Elizabeth
The very definition of PTSD
Kathryn
She’s so resourceful
Elizabeth
The crazy music ramping up
Hannah
Horror jazz
By Sam Neil and the Sapirsteins
Nathan
Dear God, they made a sequel to this.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074815/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk
Nathan
Sounds horrible!
Kathryn
3.2, damn
Nathan
A TV movie, no less.
Kathryn
Oh jeez, having to race to unlock the door!
Hannah
Haha Look Who’s Talking to Rosemary’s Baby, Too starring Bruce Willis as the voice of the baby
And Kirstie alley for some fucking reason
Kathryn
Look out behind you!
Elizabeth
hahaha the people tiptoing in the background
Man my palms are sweating
Kathryn
They used to do labor like this, just drug the mom and wake her up when it’s over.
Elizabeth
I mean I wouldn’t say no
Kathryn
Why did they stop doing that?
Elizabeth
I guess any time you put someone under there’s a risk?
Kathryn
Mother can’t tell you when something is wrong I guess.
Elizabeth
“We could’ve done something in a hospital but you wouldn’t listen” Saperstein can FUCK OFF
Kathryn
Gaslighting gaslighting gaslighting
Don’t eat her breakfast you jerk
Hannah
Yeah, so many reasons, and also better to have someone’s cooperation and consent throughout the process
Plus now they can do epidural so people can be awake
Nathan
My neighbors had a TV remote like that.
Elizabeth
I was just thinking that’s a brick of a remote
Nathan
Their grandson and I used to use it as a phaser. 😄
Elizabeth
The idea of all this nightmarish stuff going on and it’s so hot to drive you insane
Hannah
God, yeah
Elizabeth
I also remember that line about the spoon in the milk
Kathryn
Nice passage of time thing with all the pills under the shelf
Elizabeth
Checkov’s linen closet
stopping the cradle from rocking with the point of her knife is a subtle touch
Kathryn
I wanna know more about those paintings
Elizabeth
“Shut up you’re in DeBruvnik I don’t hear you”
Absolute chills at this point
Nathan
Yeah, I’ll bet he can’t look at her.
Kathryn
Apparently there are people who are CONVINCED they show the baby.
Hannah
They must be confused with the conception
Elizabeth
Even after all these years I remember they never showed the baby
Nathan
I’d be stabbing everyone in sight at this point.
Hannah
RIGHT?
Kathryn
That they think she wouldn’t have any problems with this
Elizabeth
Oh, she HASN’T been hurt Guy? Apart from pain and terror for 9 months?
Kathryn
I do wonder if Guy ever regrets that he gave his wife away and now she hates him.
Elizabeth
I bet he gets over it.
Hannah
Regret? We’ve Got A Spell for That!
Elizabeth
Laura Louise is the WORST
Hannah
Hahaha
Kathryn
I think it was slightly clearer in the book that everyone in the coven was just a few petty disagreements away from turning on each other.
Elizabeth
And she looks calmer than she has all movie
Hannah
Well that was more horrific than the first time, happy spooky season, everyone!
Elizabeth
Whoooooo
Kathryn
Ira Levin wrote a sequel. Apparently it wasn’t very good. Best to leave it with that last image.
Elizabeth
Yes I’m good with leaving it there
Kathryn
It’s so weird that I grew up thinking that the Satan stuff was the scary part, and now I’m just unsettled by the big conspiracy and no one listening to Rosemary and everyone convincing her that SHE was the crazy one.
Nathan
You mean you don’t want to see the TV movie sequel? 🤣
Elizabeth
Hee, the one they made in 2022? It’s pulling a 5.5 on imdb. I think I’ll pass 😃
Nathan
No, the one from 1976 I posted earlier.
It only got a 3.2.
Kathryn
There was a sequel in the 70’s wasn’t there? I think that was the one with the 3.3 rating.
Elizabeth
Yes I remember thinking everyone was being awfully dismissive of how much pain she was in the first time I watched it, but it’s so much worse than that
Nathan
Maybe we’ll watch it for our podcast. 🤔
Elizabeth
Heh
Apartment 7A started up automatically, a prequel to Rosemary’s baby that came out THIS YEAR
Also pulling a 5.8, I’ll pass
Kathryn
Good grief, I haven’t even HEARD of that one.
I think this movie was kind of lightning in a bottle, nobody predicted how good it would be, so it’s hard to just do that a second time.
(also there’s a joke about the screenwriter for this film, that it was his first job and he didn’t know he was allowed to make changes from the source material, which is why so much of it is word-for-word from the book.)
Nathan
The plot summary on IMDB for the sequel: “Having been adopted by the madam of a southwestern brothel, a now adult Adrian must cope with the fact that he’s Satan’s kid, and not living up to his expectations.”
Elizabeth
Ick, sounds dreadful
Funny thing though, I have a clear as day memory of a woman running screaming through a dark hallway, with a demon like creature running after her, you can only see it’s silhouette but when it turns around you see its horns and two glowing eyes
I could’ve SWORN it was this movie, but I guess not. Wonder what it’s from
Oh holy cow, the Apartment 7A movie? The prequel is about Terri, the girl Rosemary befriends at the beginning of the film
Marian
Didn’t Roman Polanski write the screenplay and direct it? Too bad he liked young girls. You should watch another of his movies, Repulsion. It’s in French with Catherine Deneuve. Look it up. His first movie that got attention is, Knife in the Water.
Hannah
Found some of the insane jazz
Elizabeth
I’m not much of a jazz person but I like that
One thing’s for sure, the true heroes of the movie are her girlfriends comforting her in the kitchen and telling her husband to fuck off